Kimball Roundy and The Spider Web Marketing System Review, The Blind Leading the Blind

The Spider Web Marketing System by Kimball Roundy is an Internet Marketing System designed and heavily promoted as a free system, which had its heyday around April of 2008.

Kimball, its originator, launched it around the beginning of 2008, just after rinsing the last few coins from another dying MLM system called Prosperity Freedom. Now The Amazing Spiderweb Marketing System can take it’s place.

It was built on a “Beta” platform and had some glitches. Kimball promised all that he would fix these and get it out of Beta, which he eventually did.

Originally the system had about 10 steps or “stages”. The most important was the first step, as it had to do with setting up what he calls a “base”. Such is “essential as this is what the rest of the system is based on”, so stated Kimball. This is fair enough and made a lot of sense to me.

Followers of the system were then instructed to go to Blogger.com, set up a Goggle account in one’s own name and get blogging. This blog would eventually get picked up by one of Kimball’s “experts” and be “professionally” polished so as to be more appealing and create leads. “Lead creation” is the most essential part of the system and there in lies the “spider web” or should we call it “The web of deceit” AKA- the Spiderweb Marketing System.

What happens later is what I basically call: “The SpiderWeb Marketing System Obstacle Course”; or “A true test of persistence”. If you are a smart guy and have some computer knowledge and “push-through” abilities, you’ll finally get through all of the steps (this has changed since it was first set up and now there may be more or less steps).

I may have the sequence wrong, as I’m telling you from recalling it and I really don’t feel like logging in again to the system and make sure that “I have it just right”. Please take my word for it. What happens next is not only a test of persistence, but of sanity and finances.

The second step, or stage, is Global Domains International. This is .ws domain name registration that was tooted to be the next best thing to Bill Gates Windows, go figure, look at Vista. You get a .ws domain name for “free”. It really isn’t as 7-10 days later your credit card gets billed and you now become a “paid member”.

It’s bad for you, but great for the FAT GUY at the top, who now has about 1,000 plus on his down line or more and shows up on top of the “Leader Boards” with fat bonuses every week. Yes, Global Domains is just another Multi-level racket that starts out innocent enough and lets you down just as Kimball has , but more on that later.

The third step is learning to do “Adwords”: Google’s Pay-per-click. This is a must for Kimball as: “How else ‘ya gonna git traffic bud?” Made sense to me. Out goes my wallet again from my pocket and enter the numbers…..But I thought: “That’s not so bad. At least I’ll learn Internet marketing from a “Pro”, you know. How can I go wrong?

Besides my Global Domains Intenational trial period will end soon. This guy promised 78 thousand leads or so by the end and I’ll come out ahead!

Man, did I mentally “masturbate” myself or what? Already past 1 year in this program, I still didn’t make a dime off of any of his stages…Oh, that’s not true. I made fifty bucks from Adsense referrals, but Google caught on quick and canceled their affiliate program, as well as the Mozilla Firefox browser toolbar installation affiliate program.

“Well, shit….happens, you know” and I kept going. Now this thing gets complicated. Google’s Blogger, per Kimball was “having issues” and he decides to host our blogs, put up a forum, etc. But (remember the “experts” that would polish your blogs?) the blogs now remain untouched and somehow become capture pages or blogs with weird templates and outrageous claims that I never made!

Spider Web users try to complain through the forum, but Kimball quickly intervenes with “comment moderation” and accuses any one who has a legitimate grievance of being a “whiner”. No more comments get posted, except his delusional assertions that his system is so wonderful and that he’s making tons of money as well as those that followed it well.

Again I thought: “This guy may be right. Just sludge through all the other steps.” I then proceeded to give myself a dose  of “pep thoughts” before I tucked myself in at night and saw the future bright again. I finished all the steps! Man, I was so proud! I completed: “Direct Matches, “Yuwie” “Commission Junction”, etc., etc.

But then he added some more: “Self Bank” and a prelude to “The Black Widow Program”. You guessed it. This program isn’t so “free” after all: .ws had now been running for 4 months, as well as my Google Adwords campaigns. Worse of all I hadn’t made a dime and he now wants $500.00 bucks (half price) and $97.00 per month for this? I don’t know about this.

Kimball assured us all that there would be “technical support”. You wanna know what this “technical support” was? It was more like ‘moral support” from your suckered in up line who just like you was trying to make a dime and could just tell you: “Patience my son”. Poor soul, just like me, he didn’t know what to say to his down line. Ergo: “The Blind Leading The Blind”.

I think that Kimball would have just saved more face had he just called it the above, instead he holds dear to a “system” that more appropriately should be called: “The Blind Leading The Blind” or “The Web of Deceit System”.

Maybe he started out with the right idea or good intentions. The utter collapse and eventual disappearance from the web will tell the final tale as the curtain falls right after their last act.

Do you want to know what his swan song is? He’s now e-mailing those that didn’t keep going with his system saying: “Don’t waste my money. Just get off my auto responder”! He’s insane.

Kimball: Learn to use your auto responder and just hit a key: that says: “delete subscriber from list”.
I can’t be totally negative about this system, after all I did learn a lot, mostly what to avoid and met some great people.

My advice is: Don’t get suckered into this or another like it. The money isn’t so much the loss, it’s your dream and your enthusiasm and time that you can’t afford to waste on charlatans like this guy who are desperate for your hard earned money while they cower behind a “forum”.

Just don’t pay attention to them and focus on what works and what you know in your heart is true.
There is a huge need and demand for Internet marketing the RIGHT way. Don’t ever give this up if this is what truly inspires you and it is what you want to accomplish.

So avoid the distractions and keep your eye on the peak of the mountain ahead. We all eventually get there, a lot sooner than we think.

So we keep at it!

To your success,

Carlos Manrique

Beware of the new Spiderweb 2.0, It is the same old rehashed B.S.

Kingspoint Project Review, Things You Should Know

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The Reason I joined:

I joined the Kingspoint Project Membership Site in about June of 2008, paying a year in advance, after being on a webinar from Jobcrusher with Eric Louviere and Mike Filsaime (2 guys I thought I admired). Keith Baxter from the Kingspoint Project was the guest speaker.

The webinar was on getting traffic and how to get lots of it to your website and I was very impressed. Keith Baxter is known as a master of CPA (cost per action) and organic search engine optimization.

After the webinar I visited the Kingspoint Project to check it out. They had some really great videos about how to set up your WordPress blogs and what procedures you need to follow to get your site showing up in the serps to get all this great targeted traffic.

Included in their membership they had weekly live sessions on traffic and new ideas that were recorded and loaded on the site for access by members. They even kicked out new PLR products for members to use every month. The forum seemed to be helpful but as new membership sites go most were newbies.

This site seemed to have what I was looking for, feeding my thirst to learn how to get ranked on th front page of Google and Yahoo. Building websites for specific niches and to bring targeted traffic to them. The main products that were offered on Kingspoint were a variation of traffic packages for individuals who needed some or all of the SEO work done for them instead of doing it themselves.

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The reason I stayed: (besides I was payed up for a year)

As the year progressed Keith offered a product called The WordPress Project. This is a super hub system that he had configured to dominate any niche market with organic search results driving massive targeted visitors to your money site.

Keith had a special limited offer to sell this to members of the Kingspoint Project. It sold out in about 30 seconds and there were many very angry members that wanted this product

Keith had several members quit after this incident. After Keith and his partner Don did a little reviewing of the messages that they were receiving from other members they offered a second chance for the WordPress Project with resale rights. You can probably see if you go to the site that there are still 26 2nd chance copies out of 50 of this product left for sale on their store page.

By October 2008 when I had purchased this product “The WordPress Project” on the second chance offer, I was off and running to build my Hub Network even though the podcasts and traffic packages along with the monthly PLR Products ceased to exist. When someone would ask about them they would be yelled at, so to speak.

It seemed that I was always being bombarded with stuff for sale from Keith through the last 8 months. I still believed he was the master of traffic and followed most each and every step that he introduced to me originally. My only gripe is that it seems that he had abandoned his membership site and did not keep up to pace with the member requests.

Each time I logged on the Kingspoint Project the membership total was getting less and less. There was not much action in the Forum and it seems to have died. I changed my Bio on the membership site and voiced my dissatisfaction with the program. Now I can not even log onto the site it gives me a “can not find server” message.

Why I am happy with my experience at the Kingspoint Project:

After learning the hard way, which is really the only way to learn and not forget, I continued looking for that mentor that was going to keep me going until I had money coming in from all this work. I believe that you will learn as you go. Mistakes are just ways not to do things.

Finding programs that will teach you how to get traffic to your website are very plentiful. Finding programs that are really good are the most difficult. There is no easy ride you see, it really is No Pain, No Gain.

I am one very lucky guy to have finally found the highest quality training I have ever had online. They take it from the start and show you how to drill down on your niche, what is most important when starting out. Did I mention they do not try to sell you a bunch of crap.

Serious keyword research is the heart of making money in any niche. Choose the wrong keywords, suffer a path of failure. Then implementing those keywords in your site and optimizing it is only the beginning. After that you have only two jobs, Content (more content), Back-links and (more Back-links).

The learning never ends.

To see one  of very few best online training places ever created

you should look HERE.

Cheers,

Dirk